[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on Zip. You don't have to be a Nazi to be outraged at this stuff.

The problem is, if this outrage is ignored it will fuel the fire of racism and play right into the extremist s hands.

For too long dissent on immigration and integration has not been allowed a voice and this just encourages the scum bag neo-nazis to take advantage.

Some honest reflection on the problems inherent with unfettered immigration is needed, without dissenting views being shouted down as 'racist' by those who can’t abide free discussion.

So what your saying is that for racists not being able to express racism without feeling guilty about expressing that racism, that that same racism is thereby encouraged because they couldn't be openly racist in the first place?

Whaaaaaaaaaatever you say

[EyeBrock]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Getting kind of Stormfront-y in here.

Noticed that myself, maybe they should come up with a new medals for some of the 'righties' around here, "White Pride" or something like that.

As an immigrant, I believe I have relevant opinions. Lumping any dissent as to your views as 'white pride' or 'stormfront-y' is very insulting and childish.

Can you not deal with dissenting views without calling them 'racist'?

[EyeBrock]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on Zip. You don't have to be a Nazi to be outraged at this stuff.

The problem is, if this outrage is ignored it will fuel the fire of racism and play right into the extremist s hands.

For too long dissent on immigration and integration has not been allowed a voice and this just encourages the scum bag neo-nazis to take advantage.

Some honest reflection on the problems inherent with unfettered immigration is needed, without dissenting views being shouted down as 'racist' by those who can’t abide free discussion.

So what your saying is that for racists not being able to express racism without feeling guilty about expressing that racism, that that same racism is thereby encouraged because they couldn't be openly racist in the first place?

Whaaaaaaaaaatever you say

What are you trying to say here?

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on Zip. You don't have to be a Nazi to be outraged at this stuff.

The problem is, if this outrage is ignored it will fuel the fire of racism and play right into the extremist s hands.

For too long dissent on immigration and integration has not been allowed a voice and this just encourages the scum bag neo-nazis to take advantage.

Some honest reflection on the problems inherent with unfettered immigration is needed, without dissenting views being shouted down as 'racist' by those who can’t abide free discussion.

So what your saying is that for racists not being able to express racism without feeling guilty about expressing that racism, that that same racism is thereby encouraged because they couldn't be openly racist in the first place?

Whaaaaaaaaaatever you say

What are you trying to say here?

You mean childish statemetns like yours where a mod had to come in and edit your post?

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Redeemer Redeemer:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

How about paintballs instead of paint have a lard filling?

Paintballs? Oh,so you want to go the "non lethal" route in dealing with peaceful protests, do you? Because those plastic bullets worked so well in Ireland. ****Mod Edit**** Except this time they'll be Muslim instead of Irish.

Anyway...

Seriously, I'm appalled at all of the hatred Muslims are getting in this thread. They did nothing wrong in this protest. They merely exercised their freedom of speech, which, last time I checked was something British subjects (and Canadian citizens, for the matter) still had.

All this talk of degrading them, dealing them great religious insults, deporting them, killing them... When does it stop? Once the "Muzzies" are gone, who next? The Jews? The blacks? The Catholics? How far will you go to get rid of those who don't agree with you?

Nice.

****Mod edit**** Do try and prove that statement with some factual and founded evidence.

Very mature of you

[HyperionTheEvil]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on Zip. You don't have to be a Nazi to be outraged at this stuff.

The problem is, if this outrage is ignored it will fuel the fire of racism and play right into the extremist s hands.

For too long dissent on immigration and integration has not been allowed a voice and this just encourages the scum bag neo-nazis to take advantage.

Some honest reflection on the problems inherent with unfettered immigration is needed, without dissenting views being shouted down as 'racist' by those who can’t abide free discussion.

So what your saying is that for racists not being able to express racism without feeling guilty about expressing that racism, that that same racism is thereby encouraged because they couldn't be openly racist in the first place?

Whaaaaaaaaaatever you say

What are you trying to say here?

Figure it out yourself Mr "Dissenting Views"

[EyeBrock]

The mod edited the post of another member who's words were very inflammatory. I challenged those words and the mod edited the original and any 'cut and pastes'. The poster received a warning.

You need to get your facts right on this one instead of coming in late and going off half-cocked.

If you have a problem with what I post on a personal level, pm me. If not, back up your aspersions with some facts before you continue with further personal insults.

[BartSimpson]

Since when is being opposed to a religious & political movement that openly advocates the violent subjugation and conquest of the entire world and the extermination of Jews "racism"?

$1:

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

And then there's the Words of Peace from Muslim leaders themselves:

$1:

· July 2000

“The Hour [of Resurrection] will not take place until you will fight the Jews and kill them”

Dr. Ahmed Yousuf Abu Halabiyah, member of the Palestinian Sharia [Islamic religious law] Rulings Council, and Rector of Advanced Studies, the Islamic University, PA TV, July 28, 2000



· October 2000

“Kill them all... we won’t leave a single Jew here.”

Young Girl, PA TV, Oct. 22, 2000



· September 2004

“The Hour [of Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews, rejoice!”

Sheikh Ibrahim Mudayris, Head of Association for Memorizing the Quran, PA Ministry of Endowments & Religious Affairs, PA TV, September 10, 2004



· January 2005

“…and the rock and the tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!”

Dr. Hassan Khater, founder of Al Quds Encyclopedia

PA TV, January 10, 2005

Oh, and let's not forget these words of Tolerance that only a 'Stormfronty' kind of person would oppose:

$1:

Dr. Mahmoud Mustafa Najem

“Allah described them [Jews] in His Book, characterized by conceit, pride, arrogance, rampage, disloyalty and treachery… deceit and cunning…”

PA TV, November 1, 2002

Sheikh Ibrahim Mudayris

“Every time Muhammad came back from his raids, he would find treachery and betrayal by the Jews of Medina, since treachery and betrayal are two character traits of the Jews’ nature... that their descendants inherited from their ancestors until today."

PA TV, June 4, 2004

Dr. Mahmoud Mustafa Najem

“The Jews are Jews, and we are forbidden to forget their character traits even for a moment, even for a blink of an eye.”

PA TV, December 6, 2002

But I'm the racist for opposing this bull*hit?

[martin14]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Getting kind of Stormfront-y in here.

Guess calling another member a Nazi just wasn't enough eh Zip.

[GreenTiger]

[quote="BartSimpson"]Since when is being opposed to a religious & political movement that openly advocates the violent subjugation and conquest of the entire world and the extermination of Jews "racism"?

A lot of good people fought and some died in WW II fighting another organization that also was interested in the conquest of the world and extermination of the Jews. By ZIPs definition all of the members of Allied Expeditionary Forces were racist.

[angler57]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Since when is being opposed to a religious & political movement that openly advocates the violent subjugation and conquest of the entire world and the extermination of Jews "racism"?

A lot of good people fought and some died in WW II fighting another organization that also was interested in the conquest of the world and extermination of the Jews. By ZIPs definition all of the members of Allied Expeditionary Forces were racist.

Some died in WWII? Yes. No extact figure will ever be known.
But, history guess from 60 to 70 million died during WWII.
A great deal more than some.

[CharlieHammer]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

CharlieHammer CharlieHammer:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

You clearly know little of European history.

That is impossible to confidently deduce from my statement.

Not really. If you had any knwoledge of European history you would know that parts of Europe--what is now Spain for example--were predominately Muslimm for some time, and rapid Muslim military expansion threatened all of Europe at the time.

And mighty Christendom held out, defeating those Muslim expansions as you have so beautifully articulated, further underscoring my point.

Ever wonder why the New World religion consisted entirely of Christianity? Another example of how Christendom held out over the Islamic Empire for so long.

But now, almost 1400 years after Islam's creation, what was once a bastion of formidable fighters bearing the Cross will now fall to the overarching sense of appeasement being exuded by European Christians. I guess over the years all of those fighters dying for Christendom added up to their fervent blood/genes never being passed on to further generations.

[GreenTiger]

angler57 angler57:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Since when is being opposed to a religious & political movement that openly advocates the violent subjugation and conquest of the entire world and the extermination of Jews "racism"?

A lot of good people fought and some died in WW II fighting another organization that also was interested in the conquest of the world and extermination of the Jews. By ZIPs definition all of the members of Allied Expeditionary Forces were racist.

Some died in WWII? Yes. No extact figure will ever be known.
But, history guess from 60 to 70 million died during WWII.
A great deal more than some.

Yes, A lot more than some. Too many for the forces of darkness to be allowed to overrun.

[HyperionTheEvil]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Since when is being opposed to a religious & political movement that openly advocates the violent subjugation and conquest of the entire world and the extermination of Jews "racism"?

Oh please spare us the moral lesson

Frankly i don't give a shit about Israel because they are not a national interest of ours, the offer nothing, we have virtually no trade. And they regularly use foreign - including - Canadian passports for their intelligence operations that get people killed but political headaches. Neither they or the Palestinians want peace, or rather peace only upon their own respective turns.

And spare us the holocaust guilt, newsflash i had two uncles on the beaches on June 6th and they amongst millions of other allied soldiers payed the ultimate price to free not just Jews but French, Belgian, Norwegian, Greek people to.

I don't feel guilty about it and even if we should we'd feel a hell of lot less guilty than the Americans. The Commonwealth was taking the hits starting in September of '39 the US didn't join the party until basically '42.

And as far as the labeling of 'antisemitic' and 'jew haters' the litmus test seems to be that unless one absolutely supports Israel no matter what the circumstances one is automatically a 'jew hater'

Screw that. Israel and the Palestinians will be at each others throats until they both are willing to talk and to negotiate. And that won't be happening anywhere in the near future And i am not going to be subject of some faux 'holocaust' guilt trip because i don't happen to be a rabid support of Israel


If the US wants to be the dog wagged by the Tail that is Israel, fill your boots buddies. Israel is hardly a sterling ally since they've been caught red-handed spying on you as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard


Some ally.

[HyperionTheEvil]

CharlieHammer CharlieHammer:

And mighty Christendom held out, defeating those Muslim expansions as you have so beautifully articulated, further underscoring my point.

Ever wonder why the New World religion consisted entirely of Christianity? Another example of how Christendom held out over the Islamic Empire for so long.

But now, almost 1400 years after Islam's creation, what was once a bastion of formidable fighters bearing the Cross will now fall to the overarching sense of appeasement being exuded by European Christians. I guess over the years all of those fighters dying for Christendom added up to their fervent blood/genes never being passed on to further generations.

You mean the Holy Catholic church, the one that likes to cover up Pedophile priests?

"mighty christendom" indeed.

[CharlieHammer]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

CharlieHammer CharlieHammer:

And mighty Christendom held out, defeating those Muslim expansions as you have so beautifully articulated, further underscoring my point.

Ever wonder why the New World religion consisted entirely of Christianity? Another example of how Christendom held out over the Islamic Empire for so long.

But now, almost 1400 years after Islam's creation, what was once a bastion of formidable fighters bearing the Cross will now fall to the overarching sense of appeasement being exuded by European Christians. I guess over the years all of those fighters dying for Christendom added up to their fervent blood/genes never being passed on to further generations.

You mean the Holy Catholic church, the one that likes to cover up Pedophile priests?

"mighty christendom" indeed.

Is it written in the Bible that they were supposed to cover up pedophile priests?

Thanks for the support-- mighty Christendom indeed!

P.S. You owe your existence and country to Christendom's survival against the Islamic horde in the centuries before us.