[DerbyX]

Don't forget the channel Islands.

[CharlieHammer]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Preach elsewhere.

Still doesn't change the fact that you said the United Kingdom was a country.

[EyeBrock]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Have you been to the UK recently Derby?

I have. It's a country in turmoil.

In most cities, there are ethnic enclaves of Pakistani's and Bangladeshis.
These communities are radicalised and a bhurka/niqab is the dress of the day for the ladies.

These are parts of town that a white English person is a target of open suspicion at the very least.

It's not good and the demo against the Army is another example of the open disdain the Pakistani community routinely shows towards the native white English. It was designed to stir the shit.

These towns were the breeding grounds of the 711 bombers that killed 50+ innocents in London.

You should visit and open your eyes to what is really going on in the UK.

Oh and on Israeli gays, they at least have a gay pride parade in Jerusalem. There's bigots there too but name me one Arab country that surrounds Israel that holds a gay pride parade.

Compared to what? You are well aware of the violence and hate the surrounded the various ethnic groups (all Christian of course) of Europeans migrating to Canada, USA, Australia.

Racial strive has long been apart of our culture. Look at the whole Mexico-USA stuff. Who in the world are more pious Christians then Latin Americans? Doesn't stop the violence though does it.

The simple fact is this:

Everytime violence surrounds any Muslim anywhere it is because of their religion and anytime violence surrounds Christians it is in spite of their religion.

I don't need to remind you of the violence and hate that Ireland experienced, violence that can easily be laid at the feet of religious differences as much as nationalist feelings.

It doesn't alter the fact that the Brit's now have whole communities within their larger cities that hate the UK, it's way of life and culture.

It's not about Christians vs Muslims, it's about a failed immigration policy that nobody dare challenge for fear of being labelled 'racist'. It's utter crap and free speech no longer exists.

[EyeBrock]

CharlieHammer CharlieHammer:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Preach elsewhere.

Still doesn't change the fact that you said the United Kingdom was a country.

Beginning to annoy.

[DerbyX]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

It doesn't alter the fact that the Brit's now have whole communities within their larger cities that hate the UK, it's way of life and culture.

It's not about Christians vs Muslims, it's about a failed immigration policy that nobody dare challenge for fear of being labelled 'racist'. It's utter crap and free speech no longer exists.

Doesn't alter the fact it took generations to achieve either.

Why is this not happening in Canada? Have we stumbled on a magic formula?

Now you are concerned about any attempt at immigration criticism being labelled racist but I gotta say you often find criticism of Israel as "why all the Jew hate".

Fair is fair right? Even you called the "round up all muslims and ship em out" as stormfront-y.

I have no quarrel with immigration reform. Its our country and we decide as a country how to handle it. My quarrel is with anyone who thinks they can dictate to another country how to live in the same breathe saying nobody can do that to us.

[EyeBrock]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Don't forget the channel Islands.

The Channel Islands are Crown dependencies but have a strange status. They are self-ruling in everything but defence and foreign affairs. They are still British citizens and hold UK passports etc but the States of Jersey etc are not full EU members so there are some issues that arise out of that.

It's complicated. I spent some time in Guernsey. These islands are what remains the French territories, captured or ceded through treaty to the English Crown. They have strong Norman French roots.

[BartSimpson]

CharlieHammer CharlieHammer:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I don't need correcting on my terminology. I'm British.

Then you should know Great Britain only includes Scotland, Wales, and England.

Us Irish have been telling them that for about 800 years and getting nowhere with it.

[EyeBrock]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

It doesn't alter the fact that the Brit's now have whole communities within their larger cities that hate the UK, it's way of life and culture.

It's not about Christians vs Muslims, it's about a failed immigration policy that nobody dare challenge for fear of being labelled 'racist'. It's utter crap and free speech no longer exists.

Doesn't alter the fact it took generations to achieve either.

Why is this not happening in Canada? Have we stumbled on a magic formula?

Now you are concerned about any attempt at immigration criticism being labelled racist but I gotta say you often find criticism of Israel as "why all the Jew hate".

Fair is fair right? Even you called the "round up all muslims and ship em out" as stormfront-y.

I have no quarrel with immigration reform. Its our country and we decide as a country how to handle it. My quarrel is with anyone who thinks they can dictate to another country how to live in the same breathe saying nobody can do that to us.[/quote]

I'm not getting what you mean on the last bit. It's your accent mate!

[DerbyX]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not getting what you mean on the last bit. It's your accent mate!

It means in a nutshell all the defence of Muslims I am so apparently well known for has been against those who advocate using violence to force them to adopt our ways in their lands.

Other then holding they are entitled to the same freedom as we which entails wearing whatever they want I don't support them doing the same over here. They adapt to our culture yes but we accept their right to have theirs in their lands.

I do not believe for one second they are a threat to our way of life.

[BartSimpson]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Why is this not happening in Canada?

As has been observed in Europe the issue is numbers. The Muslim communities generally tend to be just fine until they reach about 15% of the population in a neighborhood, city, region, or etc. and then it seems they attain a kind of social critical mass.

While their numbers in a selected country may be relatively small...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... population

like France where they are still only 6% of the population, it should be noted that they dominate in certain urban areas. Parts of Paris and Marseilles, for instance, are effectively under Islamic rule anymore, thus the recent backlash in France against headscarves and etc. even from otherwise liberal French.

That 15% figure is illustrated in Ghana where until the last four years there were no problems with the Muslim population. Now they want Sharia law imposed and people are dying in what used to be a stable country.

Other countries on the cusp of the 15% mark that have Muslim problems include Russia, Liberia, India, but then on the other side of things the country that has a very peaceable 16.7% domestic Muslim population is...Israel.

The US and Canada are only now starting to see issues where the Muslims are concentrating and that's in places like Toronto, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, New York City, and, weirdly, Lodi, California. So far we are not seeing the problems that are occuring in Europe and that's a good thing, but not a promise of continued stability.

[BartSimpson]

DerbyX DerbyX:

I do not believe for one second they are a threat to our way of life.

[DerbyX]

[EyeBrock]

DerbyX DerbyX:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not getting what you mean on the last bit. It's your accent mate!

It means in a nutshell all the defence of Muslims I am so apparently well known for has been against those who advocate using violence to force them to adopt our ways in their lands.

Other then holding they are entitled to the same freedom as we which entails wearing whatever they want I don't support them doing the same over here. They adapt to our culture yes but we accept their right to have theirs in their lands.

I do not believe for one second they are a threat to our way of life.

That's what London said.

All that changed on 7th July 2005 when 52 people were murdered by suicide bombers born in the UK to Pakistani immigrants.

These terrorists were radicalised in British mosques where hatred is nurtured.



No threat to our way of life at all.

[commanderkai]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

That Motivational Poster is hilarious. I'm curious, to any Star Wars fans who might know, was it intended for Luke and Leila to be siblings for the entire trilogy (thus making that kiss disturbing) or was it written later on, after the kiss was movie history?

[DerbyX]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

That's what London said.

All that changed on 7th July 2005 when 52 people were murdered by suicide bombers born in the UK to Pakistani immigrants.

These terrorists were radicalised in British mosques where hatred is nurtured.



No threat to our way of life at all.

Oh, and how much of that was righteous revenge for the UK participating in the invasion of 2 Muslim nations? I bet those were the acts that is fostering this hate and the fact they are attacking British soldiers returning from combat in Muslim lands should be an indicator.

Sounds like we are a greater threat to them then they ever were of us.