[kenmore]

right on hurley... makes him look good to some people ... some actually very few...

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

This is wrong on so many levels. The government serves with the confidence of the HOUSE not the SENATE. Also, this would be a clear end run around their own fixed election dates law.

well this would be an usual move but if the senate does not pass these bills then they are not doing there job's and clearly things are not geting done in parliament.

That doesn't constitute non-confidence though. And you've got it backwards anyways. If they go ahead and pass blatantly unconstitutional law (reverse onus), THEN they're not doing their jobs.

$1:

and as for fixed election dates law they are hard to apply to a minority situation and opposition has been talking about bring the government down anyways . there is still specualtion liberals migth vote against budget or bring it down at another time before 2009 .

Oh come off it. The whole point of fixed election dates is so that the government can't simply call an election when it suits them. So now Harper has to invent all these bogus confidence matters to do an end run around his own legislation so he can get his election when it suits him.

the government has no plans to call an election . these are real confidence motions , the budget , afghanistan vote and the crime bills . they are all important pieces of legisaltion and if not passed well then .
if the budget does not pass then there has to be an election that is the way parliament works. if the ndp , bloc and liberals don't vote for budget then what else to they expect to happen ?

[hurley_108]

ryan29 ryan29:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

This is wrong on so many levels. The government serves with the confidence of the HOUSE not the SENATE. Also, this would be a clear end run around their own fixed election dates law.

well this would be an usual move but if the senate does not pass these bills then they are not doing there job's and clearly things are not geting done in parliament.

That doesn't constitute non-confidence though. And you've got it backwards anyways. If they go ahead and pass blatantly unconstitutional law (reverse onus), THEN they're not doing their jobs.

$1:

and as for fixed election dates law they are hard to apply to a minority situation and opposition has been talking about bring the government down anyways . there is still specualtion liberals migth vote against budget or bring it down at another time before 2009 .

Oh come off it. The whole point of fixed election dates is so that the government can't simply call an election when it suits them. So now Harper has to invent all these bogus confidence matters to do an end run around his own legislation so he can get his election when it suits him.

the government has no plans to call an election . these are real confidence motions , the budget , afghanistan vote and the crime bills . they are all important pieces of legisaltion and if not passed well then .
if the budget does not pass then there has to be an election that is the way parliament works. if the ndp , bloc and liberals don't vote for budget then what else to they expect to happen ?

Holy smokes I don't even know where to begin. You're clearly smoking a bad batch if you think the government isn't just itching for an election. Unfortunately for them, they've TIED THEIR OWN HANDS to a large degree with their fixed election dates. As such, they're expanding the scope of confidence to massively unprecedented levels. The throne speech has always been a confidence matter, but they expanded that to cover every bill that came out of it. The house has always been the body whose confidence has mattered, and now they're expanding it to the senate. Where will it end? Who knows? They're making it up as they go along, and there's just no predicting what distortion of tradition they'll come up with next.

[Normalguy]

Kenmore, you are ever the optimist. The liberals would be better off with a cardboard cut-out of a lemur or another primate with a speech impediment leading the party than Dion. Dion is to public speaking as Joseph Stalin was to fashion. That, and the fact that he is so obvioulsy mentally challenged cannot bode well for an election in favour of the liberals. Hell, make the cut-out and you'll see what I mean. And besides,we have all simply had enough of 1984esque politics from limousine riding, liberal lawyers! I would not like Dion as my Garbage man let alone leader of my country.

[Normalguy]

I appologize to Garbage men everywhere....

[Normalguy]

and Lemurs and Primates too..

[PluggyRug]

kenmore kenmore:

. did some bar hopping and talked to alot of people.. Harper isnt doing all that well in Quebec and smoozing Charest didnt help either.. as for Quebecers calling M.Dion a fairy... nope.. if they used that term and they dont..

You gotta learn to stay away from bars on ladies night.

Anyways, pulling the plug is obsolete, governments now use a pop-up drain.