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Posts: 7580
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:16 pm
Chretien agreed to go.. for future considerations in Darfur.. he was convinced to do it .... in any case its Harpers boot licking that is keeping us there...
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Posts: 7684
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:18 pm
Streaker Streaker: Tricks Tricks: Streaker Streaker: None of our NATO commitments obliged us to go to Afghanistan. You should know that better than most, so cut the crap. Actually... we are. Carefully read Article 5, kid. Nothing required us to go to Afghanistan.
Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.
Keep reading until it sinks in.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:18 pm
I would like to say A special thanks to all of the Canadian troops in Afghanistan. At the end of the day all Canadians should be proud of the fighting they are doing against these barbarians.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:19 pm
kenmore kenmore: Chretien agreed to go.. for future considerations in Darfur.. he was convinced to do it .... in any case its Harpers boot licking that is keeping us there...
Bullshit! Prove that.
Chretien has far too much business interests with the Chinese to mess about in Darfur. I don't even think Darfur was on the political map back in 2001.
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Posts: 7580
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:20 pm
its in his book.. I will look it up and scan it.. back at ya...
if harper stays in much longer we will have to rename the country Tootsie Pop..
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Posts: 12283
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:25 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: Tricks Tricks: Streaker Streaker: None of our NATO commitments obliged us to go to Afghanistan. You should know that better than most, so cut the crap. Actually... we are. Carefully read Article 5, kid. Nothing required us to go to Afghanistan. Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security. Keep reading until it sinks in.
You fail.
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Posts: 7684
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:27 pm
kenmore kenmore: its in his book.. I will look it up and scan it.. back at ya... if harper stays in much longer we will have to rename the country Tootsie Pop..
[sarcasm]Yeah, because Chretien never lied or anything, he was the most honest forthcoming politician Canada ever had, if he says it in his book it must be true![/sarcasm]
Spare me... 
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Posts: 7684
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:27 pm
Streaker Streaker: saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: Tricks Tricks: Streaker Streaker: None of our NATO commitments obliged us to go to Afghanistan. You should know that better than most, so cut the crap. Actually... we are. Carefully read Article 5, kid. Nothing required us to go to Afghanistan. Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security. Keep reading until it sinks in. You fail.
And you can't read. NATO countries DEEMED INTERVENTION NECESSARY.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:32 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: kenmore kenmore: its in his book.. I will look it up and scan it.. back at ya... if harper stays in much longer we will have to rename the country Tootsie Pop.. [sarcasm]Yeah, because Chretien never lied or anything, he was the most honest forthcoming politician Canada ever had, if he says it in his book it must be true![/sarcasm] Spare me... 
Does he tell the part where he kills the GST and goes on to save the princess in the castle? (Who later turned out to be Dion)
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Posts: 12283
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:40 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: Tricks Tricks: Streaker Streaker: None of our NATO commitments obliged us to go to Afghanistan. You should know that better than most, so cut the crap. Actually... we are. Carefully read Article 5, kid. Nothing required us to go to Afghanistan. Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security. Keep reading until it sinks in. You fail. And you can't read. NATO countries DEEMED INTERVENTION NECESSARY.
lol Sorry, but you're quite dumb.
Each nation can individually determine what its response should be to a given situation. This is made clear in the text.
Thus.....
Canada had the option of not going to Afghanistan.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:43 pm
Streaker Streaker: saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: saturn_656 saturn_656: Streaker Streaker: Tricks Tricks: Streaker Streaker: None of our NATO commitments obliged us to go to Afghanistan. You should know that better than most, so cut the crap. Actually... we are. Carefully read Article 5, kid. Nothing required us to go to Afghanistan. Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security. Keep reading until it sinks in. You fail. And you can't read. NATO countries DEEMED INTERVENTION NECESSARY. lol Sorry, but you're quite dumb. Each nation can individually determine what its response should be to a given situation. This is made clear in the text. Thus..... Canada had the option of not going to Afghanistan. Wow. So you would want Canada to opt out of it's treaty? You really are slimey.
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Posts: 4117
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:58 pm
Bodah Bodah: kenmore kenmore: my comments have nothing to do with the military at all... we shouldnt be there.. I hardly lack respect for the military... and you know why... I just think its a useless endeavour.. It isnt a useless endeavour though, at the very least we are fighting the nut-jobs over there and not here....
As far as I am concerned, Canada wasn't even on there hitlist unti'll after we entered Afghanistan. Which is why everybody else was hit, and we wern't. Unless we had super duty security, better then the U.S. and the U.K.'s which we don't.
The terrorist leader even stated in a old video that Canada wasn't meant to be a target, however because of commitment in Afghanistan. We are now on that list.
He also said that if we pulled out now, we won't be added. If we stay, he will attack Canada.
This was a old video, so its pretty much too late to consider that. Anyways, point being. Because Canada spends most of its Military power with UN, instead of what most countries do. Nobody wants Canada dead, or hates Canada. We don't pose as a threat to them either. Before we got involved, no terrorist ever considered Canada as a target so there would be no 'fight over here'.
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Posts: 1569
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:58 pm
kenmore kenmore: my comments have nothing to do with the military at all... we shouldnt be there.. I hardly lack respect for the military... and you know why... I just think its a useless endeavour..
Once again you display the Liberal Bloc-Head Isolationist attitude very well, it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact they are not Little White Bitchy Bloc-Head Quebecers like you would it? 
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:05 pm
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206: Bodah Bodah: kenmore kenmore: my comments have nothing to do with the military at all... we shouldnt be there.. I hardly lack respect for the military... and you know why... I just think its a useless endeavour.. It isnt a useless endeavour though, at the very least we are fighting the nut-jobs over there and not here.... As far as I am concerned, Canada wasn't even on there hitlist unti'll after we entered Afghanistan. Which is why everybody else was hit, and we wern't. Unless we had super duty security, better then the U.S. and the U.K.'s which we don't. The terrorist leader even stated in a old video that Canada wasn't meant to be a target, however because of commitment in Afghanistan. We are now on that list. He also said that if we pulled out now, we won't be added. If we stay, he will attack Canada. This was a old video, so its pretty much too late to consider that. Anyways, point being. Because Canada spends most of its Military power with UN, instead of what most countries do. Nobody wants Canada dead, or hates Canada. We don't pose as a threat to them either. Before we got involved, no terrorist ever considered Canada as a target so there would be no 'fight over here'.
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
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sasquatch2
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 5737
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:21 pm
The truth is for the most part the crazies have a higher priority in maintaining Canada as a staging base than as a target.
Beside the crazies haven't targeted Texas either...yet....
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