[SprCForr]

That us/them BS always drove me nuts. It was good when you could get them to stop the nonsense and just have a good time.

[kenmore]

Proculation Proculation:

I'm quite sure that we will have the same things in Canada with the tons of muslims we import.

I really don't understand why we let those scumbags enter Canada.

3/4 of them are probably illegal. Montréal seems to be filling faster than ever.. they are coming out of the woodwork like the bed bugs in Toronto!

[BartSimpson]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

It 'aint you guys as much as it used to be mate but you know what I'm saying. And you guys know I'm a friend of the US.

Yeah, I do.

The race thing here anymore is not at all what it used to be. It's gotten ridiculously complex and, forgive me, but most of the problem is on the black side.

While Hispanics have similar demographic problems, they embrace social mobility. Meaning that a gang-banger from East LA can go to college, earn a degree, and then get a job with a good firm, live in the burbs, drive a BMW, and he is not rejected by his 'homies' for being a success. With the Hispanics it's okay to be a success.

The blacks in a similar situation deliberately eschew educational opportunities (unless they're attached to a football or basketball scholarship) and they openly denounce their fellows who succeed and move out of the ghetto. This 'racial identity' thing they have going on alienates whites, but would you believe that the people it most deeply alienates are black African immigrants!

I know a number of very hard working and outstanding people from Nigeria and Ghana here in Sacramento and they gravitate to white institutions (churches and etc) and they are openly derisive of black Americans. My point being that the lion's share of the apparent racism you're observing is really a cultural thing that is isolated to one demographic. If it were truly a race issue then the African immigrants would not be as successful as they are.

[EyeBrock]

I agree Bart. I had a mate, black guy originally from Jamaica and he said the very same thing of his time in NYC.

[gonavy47]

These guys are entitled to say their opinions, they would only have to remove my fist from their mouth, to state them.

[EyeBrock]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

These guys are entitled to say their opinions, they would only have to remove my fist from their mouth, to state them.

That's the way I feel too.

To see people who openly hate the UK living within the communities I lived and worked in, well it hurts a little.

To watch them piss on our guys on a "Freedom of the city" parade, a tradition that goes back to the Roman conquest, really hurts.

Very sad.

[Proculation]

kenmore kenmore:

Proculation Proculation:

I'm quite sure that we will have the same things in Canada with the tons of muslims we import.

I really don't understand why we let those scumbags enter Canada.

3/4 of them are probably illegal. Montréal seems to be filling faster than ever.. they are coming out of the woodwork like the bed bugs in Toronto!

I live near a park in Montreal. There are a LOT of muslims going there everyday with their child.

Always the same pattern: the woman pushes the stroller in a black 'robe' that goes to the feet and the black hidjab @ 30C while the man walks before them wearing shorts and man camisole.

I'm so angry when I see that.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

The murderer in my opinion was Tony Blair, who lied to his people and sent British soldiers to conquer and occupy Iraq resulting in some hundreds of thousands of violent deaths, the majority of whom were civilians.

But the right-wing reactionary horde doesn't like to talk about that too much, do they?

Umm this was a story about soldiers returning from Afghanistan.

[Zipperfish]

Proculation Proculation:

kenmore kenmore:

Proculation Proculation:

I'm quite sure that we will have the same things in Canada with the tons of muslims we import.

I really don't understand why we let those scumbags enter Canada.

3/4 of them are probably illegal. Montréal seems to be filling faster than ever.. they are coming out of the woodwork like the bed bugs in Toronto!

I live near a park in Montreal. There are a LOT of muslims going there everyday with their child.

Always the same pattern: the woman pushes the stroller in a black 'robe' that goes to the feet and the black hidjab @ 30C while the man walks before them wearing shorts and man camisole.

I'm so angry when I see that.

In my neighborhood there are a lot of Muslims. I see maybe one veil a week. The Muslims here (and many Christian Arabs, predominately Iranians and Iraqis) are well-integrated, have good jobs, and work hard. I play soccer with them, their kids play with my kids.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

The murderer in my opinion was Tony Blair, who lied to his people and sent British soldiers to conquer and occupy Iraq resulting in some hundreds of thousands of violent deaths, the majority of whom were civilians.

But the right-wing reactionary horde doesn't like to talk about that too much, do they?

Umm this was a story about soldiers returning from Afghanistan.

Again, I see this within the larger context.

In this case, I was pointing out that soldiers following orders can't be murderers. However leaders who lie to start a war--as Tony Blair did in Iraq (leading to a hundred or hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths)--can be considered murderers in my opinion.

[Proculation]

By veil you mean the hidjab or the full face veil ?

[EyeBrock]

Zip, I'm sure you know some decent Muslim guys. Check out the pictures on both those links I posted. Not good.

The hatred is apparent. What we do to solve the hatred will be a key factor in how we all move on.

Clearly something has to change.

[EyeBrock]

Redeemer Redeemer:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

How about paintballs instead of paint have a lard filling?

Paintballs? Oh,so you want to go the "non lethal" route in dealing with peaceful protests, do you? Because those plastic bullets worked so well in Ireland. ****Mod Edit**** Except this time they'll be Muslim instead of Irish.

Anyway...

Seriously, I'm appalled at all of the hatred Muslims are getting in this thread. They did nothing wrong in this protest. They merely exercised their freedom of speech, which, last time I checked was something British subjects (and Canadian citizens, for the matter) still had.

All this talk of degrading them, dealing them great religious insults, deporting them, killing them... When does it stop? Once the "Muzzies" are gone, who next? The Jews? The blacks? The Catholics? How far will you go to get rid of those who don't agree with you?

Nice.

****Mod edit**** Do try and prove that statement with some factual and founded evidence.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

****Mod Edit**** Except this time they'll be Muslim instead of Irish.

Hi asswipe. Enjoy your visit, but don't linger.

[Bacardi4206]

Redeemer Redeemer:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

How about paintballs instead of paint have a lard filling?

Paintballs? Oh,so you want to go the "non lethal" route in dealing with peaceful protests, do you? Because those plastic bullets worked so well in Ireland. ****Mod edit**** Except this time they'll be Muslim instead of Irish.

Anyway...

Seriously, I'm appalled at all of the hatred Muslims are getting in this thread. They did nothing wrong in this protest. They merely exercised their freedom of speech, which, last time I checked was something British subjects (and Canadian citizens, for the matter) still had.

All this talk of degrading them, dealing them great religious insults, deporting them, killing them... When does it stop? Once the "Muzzies" are gone, who next? The Jews? The blacks? The Catholics? How far will you go to get rid of those who don't agree with you?

The reasons the muslims are getting called out in this thread is because of how they act. You are correct in that they should be allowed to express free speech. However what you are not validating is that in Britain that use to be a only one way street. In which muslims would protest against the British military or even Britain and get nothing. When a couple average British citizens go to protest against what the muslims are protesting against. The police immidiatly shut it down or arrest them. I am assuming for fear of muslim retaliation which they are known to do which gets governments panties in a twist. Basic point here is that they are allowed to protest all the time and enjoy that freedom while when it comes to politics on muslim sensative subject. They are not allowed to counter protest and thus aren't getting there free speech.

Majority of the worlds conflicts today consist of having something to do with muslim countries or them in general. Wars of countries vs countries are pretty much a thing of a past, atleast for now. All you get is muslim terrorist this, muslim militia that or some random christian vs muslim genocide in Africa where both parties go genocide each other. Britain should have the right to stand up to this bullshit, they got it worse than anybody. They are under constant terrorist threat, who's the only ones outraged over this? Everybody who isn't muslim, what are muslims protesting on? The adoption of Sharia law in Britain which I believe they passed for all muslim citizens or coming into effect soon. They got muslim areas where generally a lot of muslim immigrates to. That's generally what they are called "muslim areas". Even stated in the article by one of those protestors they they thought it was in made taste they held a parade in a "muslim area". Why is this a important fact? There are a lot of British muslims who are infact hateful of British citizens and the country. They label these areas muslim areas for the simple fact they try and keep them that way. Anybody for example going to a corner store in one of these areas will most likely find themselves harassed and sometimes assaulted by some muslim youth for the simple crime of not being a muslim in this "muslim area". You'd think that would be a hate crime but no, they don't get called out upon or arrested or fined like any white or non-muslim British Citizen would if that was reserved.

They got these constant muslim political groups that are just complete ridiculous, some of these groups who even have known terrorist supporters going on record and making statements like Britain should be a muslim country and the royal family should be forced into adopting Islam and how they wanted to redo the royal palace, etc. Than how they wanted to kick out citizens who wern't muslims or diddn't convert. Suprisingly these people are not some small group, they do have a bit of large support from other British muslims. I could go on and on but I hope you get the point. The point being is that all they do in Britain is shit on everything, shit on all the citizens and protest for bullshit causes spreading hate, sometimes racism and inflicting violence without the government doing shit about it because it wouldn't be "PC". I am not suprised Britains would be fed up with that shit, I am also not suprised some people here would suggest such things as that's pretty much the same case in many western countries. Granted not all muslims are like this and majority aren't as idiotic, hateful or racist. However, they aren't being heard. Only those idiotic, hateful and racist muslims are heard. Always protesting action against muslim but never protesting muslims actions against us. They don't protest against the Taliban for killing many civilians on purpose or torturing some. They don't call those out, only the non-muslim soldiers who are there because the world got bombarded by muslim terrorists and is still being bombarded by them.