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Vitamin pills 'should be avoided,' journal edit

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Vitamin pills 'should be avoided,' journal editors say


Health | 207957 hits | Dec 17 2:17 pm | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Most vitamins such as antioxidants don't help to prevent cancer, heart disease and dementia, and some supplements could be harmful, say doctors who advise people to stop wasting their money on the pills.

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  1. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:58 pm
    Vitamin C & D supplements are still pretty important for selected people especially in northern latitudes.

  2. by avatar Xort
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:24 am
    The three latest vitamin studies looked at:

    Consumption of a daily multivitamin to prevent cardiovascular disease and cancer in more than 450,000 participants.
    Taking a daily multivitamin after a heart attack in about 1,700 men and women.
    Use of a multivitamin to prevent dementia in nearly 6,000 men aged 65 or older.


    What if I'm not taking a vitamin to avoid cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, or dementia?

    Will I get a nutritional supplement from:

    Reduce how much trans fat, saturated fat and sodium they eat.
    Cut back on calories.
    Increase physical activity.

    Nope because none of those will create the trace nutrients that I need.

    The only suggestion that would help is to eat more fruits and vegetables, which I will also note in in direct contradiction to the advice to cut back on calories.

    Studies and the media.

    Some free advice to the people doing a study, if the only health suggestions you have to offer is to eat less and get more exercise, don't bother. Everyone already knows this and most people don't care.

  3. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:31 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    Vitamin C & D supplements are still pretty important for selected people especially in northern latitudes.



    Linus Pauling would have agreed with you whole heartedly.

  4. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:32 am

    What if I'm not taking a vitamin to avoid cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, or dementia?



    Your very best bet for all of these mortal dangers is to choose your grandparents very carefully.

  5. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:05 am
    The only people who should really be taking vitamin supplements are those who don't have a well-balanced diet. For the most part, multis are a waste of money and pills are the absolute least effective method for absorption.

  6. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:52 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Vitamin C & D supplements are still pretty important for selected people especially in northern latitudes.


    Vitamin C we can get with a piece of fruit, and Vitamin D is supplemented in milk - but you can't go wrong with an extra 1000iu of D a day. :)

  7. by Regina  Gold Member
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:05 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    Vitamin C & D supplements are still pretty important for selected people especially in northern latitudes.


    Vitamin C we can get with a piece of fruit, and Vitamin D is supplemented in milk - but you can't go wrong with an extra 1000iu of D a day. :)
    I agree and that's what the study points to. Nothing you can't get naturally through food and have the added benefit as it passes along the digestive track.

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:12 pm
    "Regina" said
    Vitamin C & D supplements are still pretty important for selected people especially in northern latitudes.


    Vitamin C we can get with a piece of fruit, and Vitamin D is supplemented in milk - but you can't go wrong with an extra 1000iu of D a day. :)
    I agree and that's what the study points to. Nothing you can't get naturally through food and have the added benefit as it passes along the digestive track.

    If people aren't supplementing with Vitamin D, I'd encourage it. Living up north, I knew a few people who had crippling Seasonal Affective Disorder, and couldn't go to work often. If they did, it was because they spend 3 or 4 hours at night under a bright lamp that simulated sunlight. We just don't get enough sun here, and there is nothing you can eat that replaces it.

    I've been taking 1000iu of Vitamin D for years, and I'm convinced it's why I love winter and why I rarely get sick. I don't think I've taken a sick day from work for 10 years, despite all the nasty flu strains the past few years.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:19 pm
    SAD has nothing to do with vitD, it's about brain chemistry affected by lack of light. If it was a matter of vitD, going to a tanning salon would do the trick. Using light therapy, the light has to go in the eyes, not on the skin.

  10. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:49 pm
    "andyt" said
    SAD has nothing to do with vitD, it's about brain chemistry affected by lack of light. If it was a matter of vitD, going to a tanning salon would do the trick. Using light therapy, the light has to go in the eyes, not on the skin.


    Vitamin D may not be a 'cure' for SAD, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.


    Vitamin D Deficiency and Depression
    Depressed? Relief may be as close as your nearest vitamin D supplement.


    Vitamin D, also known as the �sunshine vitamin�, is a steroid hormone precursor. It was originally thought to play a role only in the mineralization of bones and teeth by maintaining the correct phosphorous/calcium ratio. But over time research has linked low vitamin D levels with obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, autoimmune disease, osteoporosis and cancer.

    . . .

    What does this have to do with psychiatry? Glad you asked. Recent studies by Springer, and research results reported in the New England Journal of Medicine and by the Vitamin D Council, are indicating a link to depression. Of note: Canadian researchers reviewed 14 studies, consisting of 31,424 participants and found a strong correlation between depression and a lack of Vitamin D. The lower the Vitamin D level, the greater the chance of depression. But, the big question is still causality. Does one get depressed because of a deficiency of Vitamin D, or does depression lower the vitamin level?

    SAD, Seasonal Affective Disorder, research is interesting as well. The National Institute of Health cites several studies where sunlight markedly improves mood. Of course even though we know sunlight increases vitamin D levels this doesn�t prove that the increase in vitamin D is what is responsible. It also doesn�t prove that sunlight will work in those that are depressed and do not have SAD


    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rea ... depression

    Your depression may be due to vitamin D deficiency

    (NaturalNews) A new study by Canadian researchers has found that some depression may be linked to a vitamin D deficiency.

    "A systematic review and meta-analysis of 14 studies with a total of 31,424 participants revealed an association between vitamin D levels and depression," said a summary of the study, from researchers at the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neurosciences, St Joseph's Hospital, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

    "One case-control study, ten cross-sectional studies and three cohort studies were reviewed. Researchers found that low levels of vitamin D corresponded to depression, and that lower levels of vitamin D increased odds for depression," the summary continued.

    . . .

    Because they each had risk factors for vitamin D deficiency, such as reduced vitamin D intake and a lack of exposure to the sun, the trio was given a 25-hydroxyvitamin D blood test, which revealed low levels of vitamin D for all three, ranging from 8.9 to 14.5 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL), Pathak reported. According to The Endocrine Society, levels below 21 ng/mL are considered vitamin D deficiency, and normal vitamin D levels are above 30 ng/mL.

    Over the course of eight to 12 weeks, the women were given oral vitamin D replacement therapy, which restored their levels to normal. After treatment, their levels ranged from 32 to 38 ng/mL according to the study abstract.

    Following their treatment, all three women reported a significant improvement in their depressive state, as measured by the Beck Depression Inventory. According to the BDI, a score of zero to nine indicates minimal depression; 10 to 18, mild depression; 19 to 29 moderate depression; and 30 to 63 indicates severe depression.

    One of the women improved from 32 before vitamin D therapy to 12; another from 26 to eight; and the third fell from 21 to 16, which is also in the mild range.

    "Screening at-risk depressed patients for vitamin D deficiency and treating it appropriately may be an easy and cost-effective adjunct to mainstream therapies for depression," Pathak said.


    http://www.naturalnews.com/039643_depre ... iency.html

  11. by avatar andyt
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:53 pm
    interesting

  12. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:07 pm
    Apple-a-day as effective as statins
    Eating an apple-a-day is an effective as statins at preventing deaths from strokes and heart attacks, Oxford University scientists has discovered.

    The original 1866 proverb states: Eat an apple on going to bed, and you'll keep the doctor from earning his bread.

    But a study from Oxford University has shown than an apple-a-day really will keep the doctor away and is as affective as statins at preventing strokes and heart attacks.

    Researchers have concluded that around 8,500 deaths could be prevented every year if over-50s who are not already taking statins ate one apple each day.

    Previous studies have shown that apples are high in soluble fibre which slows the build-up of cholesterol-rich plaque in the arteries.

    Apples also contain antioxodiants and flavanoids which are beneficial to health and boost the immune system.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... atins.html

    Which is good, because statins have some nasty side effects. Apples however are

  13. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:05 am
    "DrCaleb" said
    Apple-a-day as effective as statins
    Eating an apple-a-day is an effective as statins at preventing deaths from strokes and heart attacks, Oxford University scientists has discovered.

    The original 1866 proverb states: Eat an apple on going to bed, and you'll keep the doctor from earning his bread.

    But a study from Oxford University has shown than an apple-a-day really will keep the doctor away and is as affective as statins at preventing strokes and heart attacks.

    Researchers have concluded that around 8,500 deaths could be prevented every year if over-50s who are not already taking statins ate one apple each day.

    Previous studies have shown that apples are high in soluble fibre which slows the build-up of cholesterol-rich plaque in the arteries.

    Apples also contain antioxodiants and flavanoids which are beneficial to health and boost the immune system.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... atins.html

    Which is good, because statins have some nasty side effects. Apples however are

    Not when one is allergic to pectin :(

  14. by avatar PostFactum
    Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:46 am
    All vitamins are just fake. It's like immunity, which is given by nature. So pills that can improve it are one of ways for money digging.



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